They are a Royal Armour full set with black and yellow Royal Armour pads on the irons, and shafts say Armour Lite Mid Flex True Temper Made in USA. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Nice Left Handed Ping Heppler FLOKI 34" Putter w/Cover Strong Arc #327923 at the best online prices at eBay! Its also known as out-kicking your coverage. Maxell Ultra Dynamic UD35-7 Reel To Reel Tape (Lot Of 8), CaddyTek One Click Folding Golf Push Cart, CaddyLite ONE-Black, Vintage (2) Pair Westinghouse 6FQ7/6CG7 NOS/NIB Tubes, Golf Cart SEAT Replacement WHITE COVERS Factory OEM '73-1994 New EZ GO M, Vintage ULTRA COOL 8 TRACK AUDIOVOX CAR STEREO IN BOX! These clubs have been well kept and are in great condition. Wedge. They are just awesome and still totally playable irons. . I think this is one of the best articles i have read. FOR SALE! Being a DLIII and Couples fan., I geeked out since I played the same clubs as the those two Armour staffers. very well written. Sports I wonder how much Dicks paid MGS to write this story? I have a set of graphite shafted 845 Ti irons. The mindset, apparently, was if it aint broke, lets not spend money we dont have to fix it. 845 SILVER SCOT (GREY FINISH) 845 SILVER . Still have my 845s. Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! Year 2006 ; Brand Tommy Armour; Head Weight . Silver Scot #6. But they always loved selling clubs. 7 = OK Club. Unbiased. Yeah, imagine that MGS would right a topical article about golf. **These are a vintage set of irons, the grips are original and have a unique era . Add .50" to shown length for graphite lengths. Magerman was an avid tennis player and oversized tennis rackets were all the craze (as was the King Cobra), hence the 855 irons and Magermans pet project, the full titanium Ti-100 irons. And its success put Tommy Armour on a seven-year run like the golf industry had never seen. Dayton Ohio sure does have history and not only with MacGregor. PS I occasionally still shoot my age or below! Love the article. His first assignment was to develop a new iron. Probably just me. Awesome!!! Saw these offered for around $150 free shipping and thought I'd give them a try before I spent $1000 or more on Mizuno or Miura. I played the MacGregor MT (1972) "flatsole" irons from 1974 to 1994. Well Done $, I still have my set . The pro out there was Tom Wilcox and I asked him how many sets of PINGs he sells in a year. You are looking at a used VINTAGE SET of MENS RIGHT handed 354616939982. Ive still got them, minus a long-lost five iron and didnt switch to a new set of irons until 25 years later. Talk about hitting a game-winning grand slam in your first at-bat. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------. 7.7k. If they keep up their end on the quality, then their price controls could turn this into a real profit monster without the shddy workmanship of other store brands. Irons are solid and give as good a feel as my Titleist 695MB or Nike VR Pro Combo's. Feedback. Thank you. Let's first get some things out of the way these irons aren't going to go and compete with a Mizuno or Miura forging. Famous Five: Jack Nicklaus' Key Major-Winning ClubsMacGregor Tommy Armour SS1W Eye-O-Matic 60 Driver.White Fang Putter.MacGregor Tommy Armour 945W Driver.MacGregor Trending Popular Nothing worse than a neck crack, I fought one of those in my favorite driver for years. 1960), 2023 - WorthPoint Corporation | 5 Concourse Parkway NE, Suite 2900. Titleist SM6 54 S Grind Mine are waxed after every round. But that seems to be the biggest issue right now, it is considered a house brand. Both companies dabbled in golf (balls and electric carts), and together they created the Victor Golf Company, a division of Victor Comptometer. However, now that I am in England I opted to attempt to qualify for the Sunningdale Senior PGA Open. Single Irons; Putters; Wedges; Fairway Woods/Hybrids; Drivers; Golf Bags; Wanted Tommy Armour Golf Clubs & Equipment Tommy Armour Drivers 845 Forged Persimmon 845 FS Silver Scot 845s HTS Steel 845s Ti Face Ayrtime EVO 300cc EVO 300cc Plus EVO 420cc Hot Scot Hot Scot 855s Ti 100 Tommy Gun Ti . Driver: PING 410 Plus 9 degrees, Alta CB55 SFairway: Callaway Rogue 3W PX Even Flow Blue 6.0; Hybrid: Titleist 818H1 21* PX Even Flow Blue 6.0;Irons: Titleist 718 AP1 5-W2(53*) Shafts-TT AMT Red S300;WedgesVokey SM856-10DPutter: Scotty Cameron 2016 Newport 2.5Ball:Titleist AVX or 2021 ProV1. Players who know about the history of the game and care about things like golf history and the evolution of golf clubs probably have a good understanding of the Tommy Armour brand. ( its a problem, I know). I recieved a call from a man by the name of Rick Paprick. TearDrop filed for bankruptcy, having never turned a profit during its three-year stewardship, leaving behind an army of unpaid creditors. That unprecedented success not only changed Tommy Armours fortunes, but also those of a key competitor. Gamed them until I discovered my Mizuno MP-32s. Whats worth considering, however, is the fact an iconic, industry-changing and truly classic iron such as the Tommy Armour 845s could not possibly be made today. Taylormade R510TP - Speeder 757 I told the owner what I had in mind for an iron, Hoeflich said, and that was to duplicate the technology behind the PING Eye2 in terms of locating the center of gravity in the same place in each iron, which was kind of a revolutionary concept at the time.. $399.98. We held Two man Pro events and the likes of whos who that made it on the PGA Tour came and played with us. i still play my 845s and 855s what is better then these ,i bought new sets this past year to see the difference . In 1995, Hanson spun off several of its companies, including Tommy Armour, to a New Jersey-based group called U.S. Industries. Some irons just happen to be very stiff and brittle and others very soft. They are the same size as my buddy's Nike Pro combo irons. TOMMY ARMOUR SILVER Scot PGA Pitching Wedge RH TT Dynamic Regular Steel (R14) - EUR 7,92. So far, despite ultra critical reviews by some as regards the current Tommy Armour Line coming out of Dicks, I have been impressed. M85's. MGS has been spitting out things for a long time. It is without question the most consistently paced putter I have ever had, and Ive had a bunch. My set is 2-GW. Once again, John Barba and My Golf Spy, providing the best most in-depth golf writing you will find anywhere! Welcome to TST! I believe I now know who made my PGA T-Line XVI putter which I bought in 1979-80 and have been using for 40 years. Thanks for the article ! For example: every time my clubmaker bends vokey's they are like butter, but when he was bending my 54* sm to a 52* he was grunting and you could hear it creak and pophe got it to 52* anyways but I was a little scared. Fairway Wood. Many of the Macs from the 60's and early 70's are less than $100, and the remakes from the late 70's and 80's are often less than $50 unless absolutely mint. (Didnt even come close) TOMMY GUN TI. Cleveland 54* and 59* - Dynamic Gold Iron Set. The Clubs. I just hope that TA and Dicks get the 845s right and more inline with the look and feel of the major OEMs. i hit a shot with the newly purchased tommy armour silver scot hybrid 18* stiff shaft model and it goes right down the middle roughly 230 yards. Tommy Armour. A deal was finally struck in July of 85 and, after working out a deal with the Armour family (Tommy Armour died in 1968), PGA Golf officially became the Tommy Armour Golf Company. Men's Right Handed. Stiff shafts. Tommy Armour 845S Silver Scot 6 Iron 6 Iron Stiff Dynamic Gold Steel 0968725. I play a laminated maple 4 wood (Ram Investor II) that has been in my bag for 20 years-and in my grandfathers bag for probably about 20 years before that-and I have had no issues with modern balls (range balls or otherwise). Iconic club makers like Wilson Staff, Powerbilt, and MacGregor have been reduced to mere shadows of their former selves I applaud the current heroic resurgence of Wilson, a sentimental favorite of many of us with memories of Snead, Sarazen, and Palmer using their clubs. Swingweights noted are for standard steel and graphite shafts with Lamkin non-slip half cord grips. A friend has the newer TA-1s from Dicks, and I have to say, they are the real deal in game improvement clubs. They got replaced but it wasn't the same, and not as if MacGregor will replace yours now. Spec-wise, the 845s featured a 36-degree 7-iron and light swing weights ranging from C9 to D1 in stiff flex. or Best Offer. Still have my eye 2s from the 80s and I still have a set of 845s heads that are screaming to be reshafted. Golfsmtih Jetstream 3W UST V2 2i > 9i iron set: 1956-57 MacGregor Colokrom - Tourney M85, forged blades with copper faces T. T. Tourney, regular flex shafts. Another great company and another what might have been. I had a solid Nickent bag at one point save for my Odyssey Rossi Putter. Las mejores ofertas para Putter de hoja pin Hi #020 / RH / acero ~34,75" / agarre bonito / gw5719 estn en eBay Compara precios y caractersticas de productos nuevos y usados Muchos artculos con envo gratis! The only thing a golfer needs is more daylight. - BenHogan. Hey John 6 0 0. Passed my PAT to get into the PGA using these clubs. On the other hand, Tommy Armours sales had doubled to nearly $50 million since the launch of the 845s. Some have posted on this board that when they went to bend the lofts, the clubs broke. I gamed them up until this past fall when I opted to get a set of newer GI irons. (Ian Poulter, who at that time could not break an egg!) The Tommy Armour 845 - The fascinating back story of one of golf's most iconic irons. And there had been nothing compelling in Tommy Armours pipeline since the 845s launch. Up for sale is a set of Tommy Armour Forged Silver Scot Irons. 2 through Wedge for $20 bucks after trading in the "then very popular" 855's. . If you have a super high swing speed, any ball can be a problem. Way before I had interest in golf, but my hometown has a lot of history with MacGregor. Could you imagine a marketing guy today designing the Mavrik irons with some melted candles at his kitchen table? Thats not surprising since the 845s long irons have been designed for power and accuracy. . SPONSORED. The PGA TOUR officially adopted that name in March and both sides agreed to create a PGA-PGA TOUR Properties group to sell soft goods under the PGA label. $20.00 shipping. Who currently owns the TA/845 brand and would benefit from waxing nostalgic just before the release the latest version? SOLD. One of the most famous golf clubs from Tommy Armour was the 845 Silver Scot irons. Dicks apparently understands what it has in the 845s, which is why the namesake is making a comeback next month. Absolutely amazing story. The Pipe Putter was a winnerquite literally. Bought 1 set of new clubs Hong Kong pings told guy who made them didnt like them. I polish them. Menu. Next Hooters restaurants, Mike McNeil agreed to add $50.00 per week to the purse provided we change the name to the Hooters Tour. Huffy, as it turned out, was sinking faster than anyone realized. Back when UST Shafts were strictly UST, in namenot UST/MamiyaNIckent had an ongoing deal with them, and they mad Speed Rated Shafts: which were actually closer to the flex you might be looking for. Now, if the club has cracks, a loose insert, the wood is proud around the insert, loose whipping, or the finish is gone, I wouldn't hit it with any ball unless I didn't care about it. I don't hit em that much, just a few times to get that nice low rising trajectory that todays clubs can't provide. Great read. Also the customer service from proshopwarehouse.com is great. Tommy Armour 845 Silver Scot 9 iron w/Steel Tour Step Stiff $24.99. You could write a business school case study on the 845s and how it made Tommy Armour a major force in golf. 2i > PW iron set: 1950-54 MacGregor Tourney - REC. It was a wonderful design, structurally 100% comprised of a beautiful alignment feature with a back weight. Owned a set of 845s. Ive only been able to play one round with it, but so far, Im liking it. (2016 2020). If this item contains incorrect or inappropriate information please, Relevant or 4 . Unfortunately, the ownership game of hot potato was about to enter the lightning round. We then launched the DCI Black which was a less-offset version of the Gold. At the time was an x 100 player. I havent played a round with them for 25+ years but occasionally hit them into my practice net just to recall the feel which is great when you strike the sweet spot. We know about someone who bought (on sale) a pair of G Loomis graphite shafts which would've retailed for more than $1750, that is as PXG charges today. Mine are beautiful. The 845s were a great set of irons for the price point and were very easy to play. The No. You presented the facts and captured the spirit of the brand. The best story will receive the #1/500 set of Tommy Armour 845 Forged irons. The decades-long struggle between the tournament players group now the PGA TOUR and the club pros group the PGA of America was reaching another turning point. VENDRE! In the 1990s, I remember thinking, Two companies shots at the same golfer.. In other words, a better-looking PING Eye2. Next up in the ownership chorus line was the Canadian scooter and snowboard company Gen-X, which bought now-bankrupt TearDrop/Tommy Armour in early 2001. Great read I think Tommy Armour and Dicks hit on something with the TA1 lineup a couple years ago. Progressive offset. Driver: Nike Sasquatch 460 9* w/ ProForce V2 72gr stiff tipped 3/4", Fairway: Calloway 2017 Steelhead XR Strong 4 wood, Putter: Wilson Staff Balance Fit Kirk Currie III. Tommy Armour Royal Scot Under Cut Irons 5-SW Golf Clubs. Molds, which created the tooling for most of the investment-cast clubs being made then. Callaway came with a big check $130 million that July and bought Odyssey (the rest is history), and ownership put the word out that Tommy Armour could be had if the price was right. For a while the Eye2 irons were off limits to players and some tour players switched to the 845 with Mark Calcavecchia being the most notable. Excellent used condition 810 39 irons 718MB PW is a 46 black sm7 vokey Nippon Mondus 3 105 X Stiff Shafts Standard length and lie Pick up Bittern 3918 or ., 1309169292. I remember the discussion with John very well and was a proud staff member with Tommy Armour all of my years at Sunset Ridge in the 80s and 90s. AYRTIME. For some, the name will bring back fond memories of a long-lost love; for others, it will be just another store-brand club at a big-box retailer. AKA as beating me. I then decided to gain eligibility on the European Senior PGA Tour at their Open Championship qualifier. If you have questions about this era ofg, Just buffed up, lengthened a half inch and regripped a set of MT Tourney. Callaway X-forged irons from 2007, true temper black gold shafts. It won a few LPGA Tournaments the year it was introduced, which helped Nickent deepen the toe hold established by their most excellent hybrids. Atlanta, Georgia 30328 | 877.481.5750. On sole: TOMMY ARMOUR. The 845 was John Hoeflichs very first effort at designing a golf club. The grounds crew has been at it hard for a while now. . event.. Otherwise, you either had the Eye2s or 845sI chose the Eye2s. So Im guessing they are an entry level set from 90s, but cant find any other photos of a similar set online. The company bet the ranch on the Ti-100 in 1996-97 and lost badly, as the Ti-100s set a new standard for golf industry flops. Would it also surprise you to learn he was not an engineer or even an experienced club designer? Would it surprise you to learn the man who designed the Tommy Armour 845s started out teaching high-school English? Sign up for a new account in our community. Youd think those numbers 8-4-5 represent a math formula or weighting ratio or some such other technical wizardry and was inspired by focus-group input and approval. . Posted July 3, 2007. Love the feel and look of the irons and they play well. Great clubs. Everardo, May 9, 2022 1 iron in the game was the PING Eye2 so Hoeflich figured hed start there. When they first came out, Golf or Golf Digest or some rag tested them and reported the highest percentage of putts made from 20 of any putter they ever tested. It came with a custom fitting system. A lot of great memories, thanks for all the history, never knew. I started playing Mac Gregor My first full set of irons at age 9 were Armour Silver Scot circa around 1950. Is there a source for the codes to determine what year and other info? And that iconic font on the back that put a ribbon and bow on the iconic look of the 845s? They had a nice look and didnt feel too bad. Both good mornings out and still time to meet the family for an afternoon at a theme park. Shoots in the 80s. Before we developed the tooling, I went to a club in Chicago Sunset Ridge, he said. If off the rack fits you, they are nice clubs. Free shipping for many products! When balata went away, those guys went in the closet---. I've been wanting to blades again for a few years now after playing cast clubs for the past few years. After a lot of other putters have gone through my bag and ended up in the storage locker with the Nickent irons, the Pipe putter is still in my bag at home and in my bag here in New Zealand where we spend our winters (southern hemisphere summers). This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google, (your email address will not be published). Greens were slower than I expected( I guess about a 9-9.5) THose were good times. The Silver Scot Tour Blades are a big part of the new line and provide golfers with a quality blade at a great price. Any issues with the clubs can be handled easier that way. Just slightly sneaky from a self proclaimed unbiased Truth Digest. I picked up a new LH 3-PW 6.0 Rifle set of the 2006 TA Silver Scot MB's on e-bay for $152.50 from pro shop warehouse, and I also got a set of the LH heads only 3-6, 8 at their website (www.proshopwarehouse.com) for $40 to do some shaft experimenting with. 845 FS. Shaft options include Armour Tour Step steel and Armour G-Force 3.1 graphite. Sales dropped 16% that year and the bottom-line ink turned a deeper, darker shade of red. I wish someone would pick up that design and bring it back in updated form. Tommy Armour 845S Silver Scot Single 4 Iron Tour Step Stiff Steel Mens RH 38.5" . I'm the guy that said they may not be forged. WHo cares? I saw Jim Gallagher use this model at the Belfry Ryder Cup Add to Compare. After two weeks of shooting under par and not even one paycheck, I resorted to working at a driving range in Winter haven Florida. Tommy Armour management either wouldnt or couldnt pull the trigger on another $10,000 for new tooling. $29.99. Not sure, but I couldn't find a threadaddressing vintage (40s,50s,60s,70s) Macgregor clubs. Tommy Armour 855s Golden Scot Men's Graphite Sr Flex Iron Set 4-SW 394471874309. Click below to begin your paid subscription. We found CPM variations as wide as 10-12., Nickents USTs 85 MPH Rated Shafts were more like 2-4. . TSI driver, 3W, and more, TSR4 Ventus Blue TR, Rogue ST LS Fairway Ventus Red, Get ventus black 7x performance with softer feel in your 3w. Callaway X Forged Irons Golf Clubs, Tour Edge Iron Golf Club Head Covers; Additional site navigation. Finally, I was amazed to find that John Hoeflich was the brains behind the 845s. About the only difference was the M75's probably came original with T. T. V Chrome shafts and the M85's. Most of the ones for sale have rifle shafts which is nice. I dont think they did themselves any favors when they introduced the Atomic lineup. Complete Set Vintage Tommy Armour .845s Silver Scot Mens Golf Clubs Irons Woods. Hoeflich is one of my golf heres as I used to bang the drum for Nickent Golf years ago when they were a true up and comer. They came from New Zealand (Michael Campbell) Japan and England. The 845 irons were my favorite set of irons ever. 380 yard par four. I havent played with them in a bit they were great clubs got me hooked on golf. Thats what makes them icons. I bought mine on Ebay - paid 153$ - breat value for money. Swung those irons (stiff graphite shafts) for 10 years before I realized I couldnt anymore, and mostly because my swing slowed and the technology got so much better. His next iron design the Titleist DCI Gold was another home run and, not coincidentally, had the same basic offset and profile as the 845. I've heard they may not be "forged" as advertised. Exceptionally well written article. Free shipping for many products! Inside cavity: 845s(underlined) SILVER SCOT. Troubled waters started churning for PGA Golf in 1982. The sports retailer snapped up Huffys assets within days of the Chapter 11 filing. Had been playing a set of callaway x-18s and found a set of old TA 855 Silver Scots at the goodwill for $2.00 per club. Come on Dicks, you can do it, show us something worthy of the name/number. Tommy Armours name has been associated with so many clubs over the decades MacGregor Silver Scot Persimmon woods were of the highest quality and were responsible for many professional wins. TOMMY ARMOUR 855S Golden Scot Men's Graphite Sr Flex Iron Set 4-SW (8 clubs) - $223.15. it only costs 60 to 70 dollars brand new so its definitely worth. Tommy Armour. And cutting price to move volume left them with no margin to fund new R&D and marketing efforts. As I recall from the old days I was told that hitting surlyn/solid balls with woods would destroy the inserts, or the faces if there was no insert. Just be real careful with old woods and newer balls. Single Irons; Shafts; Grips; Bags & Carts; Balls; Headcovers; On-Course. I looked into the 845s when in the 90s I decided that technology had far surpassed my then 20 year old cast stainless MacGregor MT Tourneys, but ended up with King Cobras and my brother still Hello. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scot 7 Iron. I would probably be hesitant to hit a truly collectible club, but there aren't many that fall into that category. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Played the silver scotts for 12 years, even carried the 0 iron for awhile! Apart from that it was presented nicely. , please correct me if I have misspoke on the price but I know they were expensive . I sent the irons to my Dad, and he like the distance and forgiveness of the clubs. C $267.01 . Ceej, March 25, 2008 Gloves; Tees; Towels; Divot Tools; Ball Markers; Training & Aids . Lets see how they do on the MGS Most Wanted. Management loves the top line but the necessary investment in production capabilities, assembly personnel, customer service, sales, marketing, warehousing, accounts payable, accounts receivable, and other overhead can put serious stress on the bottom line and on working capital. During the next several decades, Burke made and marketed golf clubs under a variety of names, eventually moving operations to Morton Grove, IL. Classic set! Tommy Armour Silver Scot Cavity Back Forged TaylorMade 2023 Product Testing and Fitting Experience At The Kingdom! TOMMY ARMOUR 845 V25 Forged Blade RH Stiff Flex Steel Check Details. Scotty Cameron Teryllium. they're dirt cheap right now, have a great rifle shafts in em and forged. Too many things did go wrong for TearDrop. With TA going through so many changes, I don't know who exactly is Customer Service. You cannot paste images directly. Add 1 swingweight point for True Temper Sensicore steel shafts. WE compared 4 irons and the length and sole were pretty much the same. It seems nearly every golfer has a story involving the original Tommy Armour Silver Scot 845s. iacas, January 26, 2020 . Display as a link instead, By 1977, Victor Comptometer was purchased by Kidde, Inc., a New Jersey-based maker of everything from Jacuzzi bathtubs and Farberware housewares to lighting fixtures, fire protection equipment, and hydraulic cranes. . this is one of the best hybrids ive ever hit and ive hit a bunch. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, By No Guesswork. We continued to run the Tour, but when I got a call from Rudy Zucker threatening to sue us If we continued using the Tommy Armour Tour name. Damn it @BeastieI live in Celebration! Maybe this will be the year I get fitted and buy some 2015 technology on closeout. MyGolfSpy Integrity in Advertising Promise. Total Rating 100%. What a great club in the 90 s . No one was using graphic designers or product development people the way they do today. It is still the best, most-consistently paced putter I have ever used, which reduces my 3 putts. They have been played very little as I have not been able to play that often and when I do play I use one of three sets of clubs. Perfectly timed just before the upcoming release of the latest latest 845. Still playing 3 Nickent hybrids (a 2, 3, and 4), and still hitting them well. Year 2002; Brand . I played the MacGregor MT (1972) "flatsole" irons from 1974 to 1994. The Atomic irons straddle the line between game improvement and super game improvement. Clubs that are played need the poly or varnish refreshed occasionally. has plenty of life left, possible worn groves 275384841503 The company we came to know as Tommy Armour actually started in Ohio in 1910 as the Burke Golf Equipment Company. Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scot Single LH Pitching Wedge TA Steel Shaft GC! They were a gift from my brother to replace an incomplete set of Ping Eye 2s I was playing. We still love the Beatles and, even though Elvis has been dead for more than 40 years, hes still Elvis. C $153.09. If youve been paying even a little attention, it doesnt take high-level editorial or business-specific insight to say the golf industry has changed over the past 30 years. But you can also say the company was a victim a pawn in a much larger chess match between corporations and personalities that didnt know their own limitations. Obviously a lot of us. Brings out shiny set of 845 bc beryllium copper. The one turn off was the small head, and aspect that has also turned me off from the Mizuno MP5. They're also playing about 6 miles from my home, at Trump Washington DC (in Sterling VA). MATERIAL GRAPHITE . Thank you I gamed the 845s back in the day, wonderful irons to play. Titleist SM6 58 S Grind The company had high hopes for the EQL one-length irons introduced in 1989 but they never gained traction. Upper toe area of cavity: CAVITY BALANCED. They look and feel like long irons should, with a straight leading edge, strong top line, generous offset, and a solid feel.. I believe that the first VIP's come on to the marketwas in about 1968 after Jack Nicklaus was signed by MacGregor and had a few wins under his belt. When I think of Tommy Armour 845s .. they were extremely popular and could give any of the pro line club sets of the time a run for their money as they were a excellent iron, Im thinking the 845BC was about $1100.00 with Mitsubishi graphite shafts.